Necha Hilferding nee Weinrath in 1937
Marysia Hilferding in 1947
Later also DOMBROWSKA , DABROWSKA and WEINRATH
Later also IRENA/ IRKA
|Birth Place:||Lviv, Ukraine then Lwow,Poland|
|Father's Name:||JOSEPH NORBERT HILFERDING born Oct 15th.1910 in Lviv|
|Mother's Name:||NECHA NELKA NELLY HILFERDING nee WEINRATH born June 23rd 1919 in Rava Ruska, Ukraine.|
|Paternal grandmother:||DAWID ABRAHAM HILFERDING born either in 1879 or perhaps before 1877|
|Paternal grandmother:||SURE MALKE SALOMEA HILFERDING nee ZOLLER born 1879 in Belyy Kamen, Ukraine.|
|Maternal grandfather:||SAMUEL SZMUEL WEINRATH , lived in Lubaczow|
|Maternal grandmother:||Reisel WEINRATH nee Gottlieb born 1889 Rava Ruska, died 1924 Lubaczow|
Marysia died of cancer in November 2001, though her search will go on, for at least three reasons:
- for the sake of her children and grandchildren
- because she would have wanted it.
- but first of all, because she was the inspiration for this project.
Through a lifelong research that became very intensive from the year 1993, she managed to reconstruct her own past and that of her family.
Necha Nelly Weinrath and Joseph Norbert Hilferding met and married in Lviv.
Their daughter Marysia was probably born in the summer of 1942.
Probably in August 1942 Norbert and other family members were murdered in an AKTZIA in Lviv.
Necha Nelly managed to escape with her baby daughter Marysia from Lviv to Zakopane. They used forged papers under the names Janina Dombrowska born 1917 and daughter Irena Dombrowska. In Zakopane they first stayed with the Roman family. After a while Necha Nelly started to work on the black market with a man named Edward, traveling by train to different parts of Poland. Her daughter was left in the care of Mrs.Elzbieta Roman.
Probably in September 1943, she was arrested. Where and what happened to her is not known. Mrs. Roman, fearing the Gestapo, then brought Marysia / Irena to Apolonia Trybus and her family who also lived in Zakopane. She stayed with the Trybus family until March 1947, including a year and a half after the war in Bielsko Biala.
She was brought by the Koordynacja organization from Bielsko Biala to their children's house in Lodz in March 1947. In March 1948, she arrived in Israel.
In 1994/1995 Marysia found the maiden name and a picture of her mother (see above). Later she found additional photos. In April 1999 she found the name and pictures of her father after locating her paternal aunt in Brasil.
MEETING HER AUNT AND COUSINS IN ISRAEL IN MAY 1999
Joseph Norbert Hilferding's youngest sister Regina “Gina” had survived the war and settled in Brasil in 1946. Shortly after locating this aunt through the Internet and JewishGen, the aunt and her two sons came for a visit to Israel.
Imagine living under many different names for so many years, and then finally be able to know your private name, your family name and the names of your parents. As a real bonus - finding wonderful living relatives!
This was without doubt one of the highlights in Marysia's life. Through the aunt, a cousin of her father was located in the States. The American relatives had received the family photos from Lviv n the 1920's and 1930's - the only surviving family photos.
GRANDMOTHER REISEL WEINRATH nee GOTTLIEB
In May 2002 and in May 2003 Eva Floersheim did an inventory of the Jewish cemetery in Lubaczow. Among the ca 1600 gravestones registered, it turned out that Reisel Weinrath's gravestone was there too. Reisel was born in 1889 in Rava Ruska, the daughter of Pinchas and Alte Gottlieb. When Reisel died in 1924 - 35 years old - her daughter Necha Nella was only five years old.
MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE GOTTLIEB FAMILY FROM RAVA RUSKA
Reisel Rosalia Gottlieb was born in Rawa Ruska to Pinkas Gottlieb and his wife Alte around 1889. In 1924 when Reisel died in Lubaczow, her father Pinkas Gottlieb was no longer alive, according to the gravestone.
Using the JRI-Poland index lists http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/ , here are possible pieces in this family tree - pieces that will have to be checked against the original documents.
In the Rawa Ruska lists the following was noted:
In 1896 Pinkas Gottlieb, born ca 1837, died in Rawa Ruska. He was the son of Chaim Leib Gottlieb and Lea Rose Gottlieb. The original death register may give more information, including where Pinkas was born. ( Interestingly enough, on Reisel's gravestone from 1924, it is written that her father Pinkas is no longer alive. This would also mean that Reisel lost her father when she was only 7 years old )
Looking for Reisel Rosalia's birth register around 1889 in Rawa Ruska, I could not find her name, but looking for other children of Pinkas and Alte Gottlieb, I found: Jakob Gottlieb born 1883 in Rawa Ruska. So where did Pinkas and Alte live outside Rawa Ruska? Where was actually Reisel Rosalia born? What happened to Jakob Gottlieb born 1883? What other children did Pinkas and Alte have? They probably also had a son named Chaim Leib, born before 1883 ( see text further down).
Are there any other Gottlieb relatives descending from Chaim Leib and Lea Rose Gottlieb and from their son Pinkas Gottlieb and Pinka's wife Alte?
Chaim Leib Gottlieb must have been born back around 1810, in my estimate. Did he also live in Rawa Ruska? Interestingly enough two Chaim Leib were born in Rawa Ruska in 1882 and in 1883. One was the son of Moses Jakob Gottlieb and his wife Serel Lieberman. The other one was the son of Moses Gottlieb and his wife Ruchel Lea Landesman. ( Was the first Chaim Leib Gottlieb born around 1810 the son of Moses, and were these two fathers cousins, named after their greatgrandfather?)
The fact that Pinkas Gottlieb named his son Jakob in 1883, points to the possibility that Pinkas already had a son named Chaim Leib who was born before 1883.
1) When exactly was Marysia born?
2) Was she born under the identity of Irena Dombrovska, a Polish Christian child, in Lviv? Are there any registers of Polish Christian children who were born in Lviv in 1942?
3) Where did Necha Nelly, and later Marysia, live in Lviv or elsewhere, from the autumn of 1941 onwards? We assume her mother lived on her false identity papers under the name of Janina Dombrowska.
4) Necha Nella finished high school in Yavorov in June 1937. Can it be that Joseph Norbert Hilferding was the boyfriend who would fetch her for the weekends in that last school year of 1936/1937?
5) If so, may it be that Necha Nella Weinrath and Joseph Norbert Hilferding married sometimes between July 1937 and September 1939?
6) We now know that Necha Nella's mother Reisel Weinrath had died in 1924 in Lubaczow. Necha's father Samuel Weinrath was alive in 1937. Did he die before the Holocaust? Did he die during Holocaust?
7) Among the few survivors of Lubaczow, where Necha/Nelly lived with her parents Samuel and Reisel Weinrath, we have not found anybody who remembers them. Where can we find information about this Weinrath family?
8) Do you have any information that can help us to continue to build the Hilferding family tree ?
RESEARCH JOURNAL AUGUST 2005
THE FAMILY OF DAWID AND SALOMEA HILFERDING FROM LVIV
The birth registers for Lviv 1877 - 1899 are now online on JRI-Poland .
Dawid' Hilferding's own birth registration is still not online ( if he was born in 1879 he was born elsewhere, or perhaps he was born before 1877) in Lviv?) but the indexing has already be founded for the births from 1862 - 1876. Check the lists on http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/town/lwow.htm to see if you would be interested to contribute money to index additional material from Lwow/Lviv.
For general contributions to JRI-Poland check out http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/visa.htm
THE FAMILY OF JOSEF AND BETTI HILFERDING
In 1900 in Grodek ( now Gorodok, 26 km WSW of Lviv) Josef Hilferding and his wife Betti nee Muenzer had a baby son they named Moses Samuel Hilferding. Later Josef and Betti moved to Lviv and had at least one more son and three daughters.
Around ten years ago Samuel Moses' wife (now z"l) told us that her husband was a cousin of Marysia's Hilferding family. At this point it seems likely that Josef Hilferding was a first cousin of Dawid Hilferding and Samuel Moses a second cousin of Marysia's father Norbert Hilferding. This would mean that Josef Hilferding's father ( name unknown so far) was the brother of Hersch Hilferding.
This Hilferding family in general had its roots in Brody.
Will we be able to prove the connection between these two Hilferding families?
If Josef Hilferding's grandson would like a copy of his grandfather's birthcertificate, he can again get such a copy through the Polish State Archives.
OTHER HILFERDING FAMILIES FROM LVIV
Marysia's aunt Gina in Brasil told us that there were very few Hilferding families in Lviv when she grew up between the two world wars.
Using JRI-Poland we learn about at least three Hilferding families.
DAWID HILFERDING and SZAJNDEL JITTA nee MIMELES / ROSENBERG
This couple had at least two children:
LIEPE HILFERDING and REBEKA nee SEGEL
This couple had at least two sons, probably twins:
ABRAHAM HILFERDING and MARJEM nee LAPAJOWER
The registry says Abraham came from Zloczow originally.
The couple had at least two daughters:
Are there any connections between these three Hilferding families and the Hilferding family of Marysia?
In addition , on the JOWBR registry on JewishGen http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/cemetery/ , based on cemetery records from Lviv 1941 - 1942, there is one Adolf HILFERDING, born ca 1906, who died July 29th 1942 in Lviv. His last address was ul. Kuszewicza in Lviv.
Who were his parents? Was he married? Did he have children?
TELEPHONE REGISTERS FOR LVIV FOR THE 1930'S
HILFERDING D. , przeds. mod., ul. Rutowskiego 23
HILFERDING LEON, m. (=residence) , ul. Sykstuska 1
HILFERDING D., krawcowa, m., ul Rutowskiego 23
HILFERDING D., krawcowa, m., ul. Rutowskiego 23
D. Hilferding is Marysia's grandfather Dawid Hilferding. His business (hats and fashion ) was in ul. Rutowskiego 23, but he and his family actually lived elsewhere in Lviv.
Leon Hilferding is Marysia's uncle, who first had a telephone in 1932, but later seems to have given it up.
Other Hilferding persons are not listed in these telephone registers.
RESEARCH JOURNAL DECEMBER 2007
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